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| Shamsuddin Waheed |
Posted: Jan 20 2008, 05:56 PM
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The Messiah A very important personality to Muslims, Jesus Christ is mentioned by name in the Qur'an twenty-five times. He was Al-Maseeh [The Messiah], awaited by the Jewish people. The Jewish people expected a leader to defeat their enemies in a military conflict, however Jesus had a much greater and more difficult of a task, i.e. a mission of spiritual priorities and renewal, a rejuvenation of the intent of the law [of Moses], rather than blind obedience to ritual and tradition. "Woe to you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees, you Hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the most important matters of the law-justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel." [Matthew 23:23-24] "..Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and all your mind and all your strength. The second is this-'Love your neighbor as yourself' there is no commandments greater than these"[ Mark 12: 29-31] "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone" [ Luke 11:42] Died for mankind's sins? The current ideas associated with the Messiah in Christendom, such as his death-sacrifice as atonement for mankind's sins, is not supported by Islamic teachings. We would like to point out some of the following Biblical textas food for thought. "[John the Baptist said] Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not think you can say to yourselves 'We have Abraham as our father' I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire" [ Matt. 3:8-10] In this Biblical text, we have a lesson of personal responsibility and deeds which must be shown to have some sort of positive effect. Otherwise, faith is not useful to the believer. Also of interest, from the Bible, is Matt. 12:33, 13:31-34. The same essential teaching is given in the Qur'an. "...And none can bear the burdens of another. Then, to your Lord is your return, he will tell you the truth of that which you disagreed about" [Q 6:164] "None can bear the burden of another, man has nothing, except what he worked for, the result of his work will be seen {by God} " [Q 53:38-40 also see vv.41-48] -------------------- [SIZE=14]اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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| Shamsuddin Waheed |
Posted: Jan 20 2008, 06:18 PM
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Son of God
Another point of difference between the Islamic teachings and Christian perspectives is the idea that Jesus Christ is the "son of God". In the Bible, this phrase, as well as similar phrases, are clearly used in a metaphorical sense, and should not be taken in a literal, physical sense. Please see as examples from the Bible Genesis 6:2,4, Exodus 4:22, Luke 3:38 and many other passages. I have often pointed out in discussions and lectures with Christians that in many Eastern cultures, phrases such as "Father" "son' "Uncle" "Aunt" etc..are used to denote familiarity and respect, and is not understood to refer to blood-relationships. To avoid such confusion, the Qur'an advocates using clear and unambiguous language when discussing the Divine, and the relationship to creation. "Say: He is God alone. God the eternal. He did not give birth, nor was he given birth to, and nothing exists like him" [Q 112:1-4] In numerous other Quranic texts, the doctrine of God having children is addressed. Concerning Jesus himself, we are told: "Surely in God's sight, [the status of] Jesus is similar to that of Adam.He created him from dust, then said to him 'Be' and he was" [Q 3:59] Divinity It is well known that Islam does not accept the doctrine of Jesus' Divinity. Even from the Bible, we can find that Jesus prayed { Matt. 4:2}. If Jesus prayed, then to whom was he praying? To himself? Nonetheless, the doctrine has entered mainstream Christian ideology, and while we are not concerned here with how it entered the Christian religion, it should be noted that many in Christian ranks, on the basis of their own Biblical understanding, have not accepted this idea. Nonetheless, the Qur'an does claim to have a Christology that is pure and representative of the teachings of Jesus. Some examples are given below. " A man given scripture and wisdom, and designated as a Prophet, will not tell people 'Worship me' and not God. However, he would say 'Become devoted worshipers of the Nourisher {of the Universe}. You have taught scripture, and you have studied it. And he would never order you to take angels and Prophets as Lords. Would he order you to rejection {Kufr}, after you have been submissive {to God} " [Q 3:79-80] A vivid picture of the day of Judgment is given in the Qur'an, in which God is depicted as asking Jesus if he ever proclaimed Divinity for himself. To this, Jesus replies: "...I did not say to them anything except what you ordered me to say 'Worship God, my Lord and your lord..." [ Q 5:117] ____________________________________________________________________ All Biblical quotes are taken from the NIV study Bible [2002, Zondervan, Grand Rapids, Michigan. All Quranic texts are translated from the original Arabic by the author. -------------------- [SIZE=14]اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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| muhammad abdul wali |
Posted: Jan 26 2008, 11:06 PM
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Salaam,
This is a very nice piece Waheed. I have to admit you are very fluent in the Bible and the Quran. Muhammad |
| eldon |
Posted: May 15 2008, 10:53 AM
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Yes, brother, that is a good article.
That last quote from the Quran you gave, where Jesus is quoted as saying on the Day of Judgement is a very important verse. : "...I did not say to them anything except what you ordered me to say 'Worship God, my Lord and your lord..." [ Q 5:117] For Christians, it provides a LOUD and CLEAR "ring of Truth", matching John 20:17 in which Jesus is quoted as saying "...to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." That verse alone denies both the notion of Allah's physical fatherhood and Jesus' deity and needs to be pointed out to Christians as in accord with the Quran. -------------------- Here (in the Quran) is a plain statement to men, a guidance and instruction to those who fear Allah. So lose not heart, nor fall into despair, for ye must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith. 3:139 Confirming the Glory
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| Shamsuddin Waheed |
Posted: Oct 8 2008, 10:47 PM
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This Ayah from the Glorious Qur'an should be understood as not only referring to Jesus, rather it is applicable to the situation of any of the other prophets, messengers, and teachers of religion who were sincere. Any who would encourage his followers to elevate his self and not Allah, this verse would show us that such leaders are not sincere. In addition, we must also be careful never to elevate Allah's messengers, nor great scholars and teachers, above that which Allah has already done. All the prophets died, as well as our leaders and figures, eventually. Yet, Allah is the one who does not die, who is deserving of our worship! -------------------- [SIZE=14]اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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| Alisha |
Posted: Nov 29 2008, 04:45 PM
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The more I read about the Islam religion the closer I become to Allah. I've been raised Christian all my life and could not learn about becoming a Muslim (my mother forbid it).
All praises be to Allah -------------------- "What Allah said to the rose and caused it to bloom in hearty laughter, He said to my heart and made it a hundred times prettier" - Jalauddin Rumi, the Mathnawi
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| Shamsuddin Waheed |
Posted: Nov 29 2008, 11:20 PM
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Praise be to Allah! I am happy this brief article has been useful.
There is some more information that may be useful at the "online lectures link" in the advertisment section in the form of the lecture called "Jesus in Islam". In Islam, we learn to respect the Prophets of God, to respect them and follow them, without the overzealousness that leads to idolatry. Well, until next time... Regards, S.Waheed -------------------- [SIZE=14]اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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| peacepro |
Posted: Jun 7 2009, 05:30 AM
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Jesus has been explicitly explained in Quran by Allah and cleared all the allegations on him. Alhumdulillah.
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| fauq |
Posted: Jun 7 2009, 10:37 AM
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The Divinity of the Christ is negated in clearest terms by Allah Himself. This must serve as an example that can be easily extended to other faiths, including Islam. There are many sects in Islam--not the least of which is some extreme forms of Sufism where the love of Allah is seen in the love of everyone and everything He created. There are also other powerful offshoots of a special form of Sufism that manifest in the "praise the Prophet" mania where Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) is praised much more than even Allah despite the clear fact that that Qur'an enjoins ONLY the praise of Allah. In Pakistan, this sect has a name "Brelvis"--and they are not in minority. Many of them learn that the Prophet went to the Heavens where he physically embraced Allah in a chamber so "they became one". And then, there millions of others for whom Ali and his descendents are almost everything. There are millions of grave-woshippers. All this, to me, is only an inch away from what most Christians believe. In theory, no Muslim will ever identify Muhammad with the person of Allah, yet, practically, there are plenty of back doors of “Muhammadanism” carved into the wall of "Tawheed" (ONENESS and ONLYNESS" of Allah! And then there's this huge mass of humans in the "Muslim" camp who have even canonized a man-made "second" --and even "third" and "fourth" source of Divine Guidance that once was the only prerogative of the Qur'an. So, the Christians are not alone in the game. They have plenty of company everywhere. The Qur'an makes no bone in telling us that the MAJORITY of the world remains off the track (6:116). There has to be a reason why almost every page of the Qur'an Allah appears to be saying "I am ONE and ONLY" and "Worship/serve none but Me". It seems that somehow the mighty shirk (sharing of God's authority with anyone/anything else) always manages to get the better of us, the humans; we are hooked on the drug. Perhaps, that's why we need Allah's forgiveness every moment of our lives. Wassalam, Fauq |
| Gamar |
Posted: Jun 8 2009, 12:40 AM
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As-salaamu allikum brothers, Good Information about prophet jesus. Allah may reward you brothers. |
| Shamsuddin Waheed |
Posted: Jun 9 2009, 04:15 AM
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Br Fauq, Another fascinating thing is that the Qur'an connects Shirk to injustice, on a human scale. Perhaps this is why we read the monumental statement Innaash shirka Ladhulmun 'Adheem [Surely,Shirk is the greatest crime or wrong]. wassalaam -------------------- [SIZE=14]اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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| shohorab |
Posted: Jun 30 2009, 07:27 AM
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Another off topic fact.
If the prophet Muhammed wrote the Quran, why would he mention Jesus 25 times and himself only a few times? Abraham is mentioned so many times, Quran even asks us to follow the creed of Abraham. Why did the prophet not talk about himself more in the book? Unless the book is dictated by someone else. Maybe, the God. |
| amar_labedi |
Posted: Oct 17 2009, 08:55 AM
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:salaam: i] Innaash[/i] shirka Ladhulmun 'Adheem [Surely,Shirk is the greatest crime or wrong]. May Allah have Mercy on us forgive us our sins and guide us to the stragiht Path.. -------------------- |
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| amar_labedi |
Posted: Nov 10 2009, 04:10 AM
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Why is it a muslimc accepts and encourages and a christian unable to understand and accept.... -------------------- |
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| dattaswami |
Posted: Nov 10 2009, 11:14 AM
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Let us first see: Son of God Here Son of God means that devotee of God who has pleased God like anything by His love on Him (God) so that God has personally come and stay in Him (Son of God) through out His life from birth to death to carry out His mission on this earth of preaching and uplifting the souls. Difference between ‘Son of God’ and other human beings Like the machine and son of an engineer, the creation and son of God exist. All the human beings are part of the creation of God. A liberated soul is one of the human beings and when he is blessed by God, God enters in to him to make him the human incarnation of God on the earth. Such a blessed liberated soul is mentioned as the son of God. The son of God differs from all the other human beings and the rest of creation by having God in him. The entire creation including all the other human beings is also the product of God and the son of God is also the product of God. But the difference between the son of God and the rest of creation is the presence of God in the son of God and the absence of God in the rest of creation. A machine invented by the engineer is said to be his product. Similarly, the son of the engineer is also said to be the product of the same engineer. But the difference is that the blood of engineer exists in the son, where as, the blood of engineer is absent in the machine. Thus one has to clearly understand the meaning of the son of God. Regarding Jesus praying to God Human incarnation or SOn of God is a mixture of God and Son of God. It is like an alloy of two metals. Thus in Son of God one more extra item exists other than the soul of the Son of God, it is the God Himself. In ordinary human beings only soul exists. But in Son of God or Human incarnation; God + that soul exists in that human body. It is the soul in the Son of God who prayed to the God in Him to show the rest of the people how to be submissive to God. It is for the other people's benefit Son of God acts like that. Son of God very well knew and love GOd and His presence in Him. But to show to the other devotees as a role model He prayed to God. When God has loved the son of God and Son of God has surrendered to God like anything there is no need of praying to God by the Son of God, since both are one and the same. Son of God and God are one and the same when Son of God is alive in this world. It is like a live wire. Here wire is the Son of God and current (God) pervades all over the body of the Son of God, so for all practical purpose wire can be treated as God since GOd only pervades all over the body of the Son of God and does wonderful things. Thus Jesus told I and My Father are one and the same to a deserving devotees who could digest this point of Human Incarnation. He also told to Philip that whoever has seen Son of God or Human incarnation has seen the unimaginable, invisible God in the Heaven. This is the only way to see the unimaginable Heavenly Father. Father pervades the body of the Son of God and by seeing Son of God one has seen the very Father in Heaven. God is impartial and He comes down in human form in every human generation to preach and uplift the human souls through His wonderful divine knoweldge. -------------------- Religion-Hindu.
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